yuck

how much are they going to cost in the U.S.

I love you George. Can't wait to buy four.

these are going to be nice, I will pick some up when they come out, G; your pretty damned innovative!! Can't wait to get more of your products

Just wondering, how is the strength compared to steel once the plegs get real thin? Is there some kind of good indicator you'll be using as to know when to replace them so they don't snap off at a bad time?

Not saying they will or anything, just wondering - as my small mind thinks plastic will wear and therefore break a bit faster -

real innovative ,how many companies have had plastic pegs?

you are a step behind Demolition... they have had plastic pegs for years.

George, come on.

You know all plastics-- and all previously made plastic-sleeved, metal-innard pegs-- are exactly the same! You know this!

Goddamnit, you know this!

The last two posts are retarded. All other "plastic" pegs before the Pleg have a metal sleeve, the Pleg is only metal where it meets the dropout. Guaranteed Demolition plastic-sleeved pegs aren't 4oz. Get your facts straight before spitting out ignorant comments.

YEAH!!!!! you go Timbo! show'em whats up!

Good Job. I'm looking forward to buy four. 112g amazing :)

G, you just cured my erection problems. I'm buying four.

42mm is fine, but how do they fit on forks and how weak are they once someone files them down to fit on their forks?

o yeah why no anti spin doo das?

"Guaranteed Demolition plastic-sleeved pegs aren't 4oz. "

Hey Timbo, they are 4.7oz and if you think you would notice the .7 oz difference then you have supapowahs.

I would have made like grooves and slots or something on the metal insirt/peg to interlock the two together. this way it would prevent the peg from spinning more...

Whats the minimum temperature in °C that these will work at?

i think it's a really good idea. plastic pegs have been around for a little while, but the steel insert design is really clever. plus, skateboard parks that don't like metal pegs will have no
argument now

ps, george is the engineer here, not you guys. at least he's coming up with interesting ideas

i want a pair.. as a former skater i hated how chunked ledges were from general wear much less from bike or skateboards.. from the past i decided not to ride pegs this time around (a 12 year laps in my bmx riding)and not do grinds... plastic pegs are the way to resolve that.. and these look better and will be more available than the demolitions are these days... 27 bucks is steep for a peg that wears out fast and replacement parts arent available.. (demolition)... the end

ooh shit pleggs gunan be blowin up the spot

aluminum rails beware

by now those pegs must have been tested and if g himself has had some simular pegs on his bike for years then why can't they be released sooner? i know they have to be made but it should take 3-4 months should it? seems like an simple enough product (production wise) to get fired out quick.

brett, ever heard of quality control? distribution?
and all that other stuff that happens?

Im just a bit concerned about the diameter of the plegs, Im currently running wethepeople pegs with a 34mm diameter and they only just fit on my dropouts. Is the front pleg going to be tapered?

Working with plastics and composites is always tricky because they are much less predictable than metals. The current prototypes are very good, but I think we can still improve them slightly by tinkering with the exact composition of the polymer-alloy used...

There is NOT a specific front version, but it is relatively simple to grind an edge away to clear small dropouts. They will fit all current and previous Odyssey forks without modification.

G.

how much do you reckon these are going to cost, coz i might just go back to riding with pegs

i cant wait.im gettin 4 and goin nuts with them.woot!
only thing im afraid of is if they are too fast and smooth cause if thats the case certain rail shenanegans will be tough...it will open new ledges up though

will there be an alloy core availiable, for supr lightweight? because my curent pegs have an alloy center

i meant aluminium btw

the biggest question is whether they'll come in wacky colours or not.

Well played George and team, just what Im looking for at 30 :)

Green/yellow multi-colour please!

ah yes, always the perfectionist, and that's why we love you.

news came out that demolition re-designed their plastic pags and they even list the type of plastic in some scientific way that come be crap for all i know, but you should look at it and see if its dumb, fake mumbo jumbo or if they somehow copyd the plastic type of your prototypes.

i was just wondering how you say theres a cheap plastic replacement part for ground through pegs. as the steel bottom is the way smaller part and the plastic actually is 9/10 of the whole peg, is it still gonna be a cheap replacement part?

2nd question: will the USA be first to be supplied with them oder europe?

Hey G, you should INVENT an Alum.thread on peg next.

Hey GSport, I think you should INVENT colored spokes next!

This is all rubbish...it's bmx parts we are talking about here. None of this crap is original or new. Get over it!!!

The plastic sleeve is made in a single shot on an injection moulding machine (which is cheap), while the "core" is forged and then machined to size (which isn't). There is no point buying a new "core" if there is nothing wrong with the old one.

We WILL be able to sell the sleeves at approx HALF the price of an entire peg so I think it is definately worth doing this way.

Demolition have posted information suggesting that their pegs use PVC as the covering material.. they even seem to have "borrowed" a graphic from Wikipedia:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_chloride

I have never tried to claim that these are the first ever plastic coated pegs, however I do think I have pioneered the use of plastic as a STRUCTURAL element for a peg.

There are several thousand engineering plastics to choose from so to group them all together is ridiculous. Rest assured these are NOT PVC.

G.

Hey Brett I saw G's peg for the first time last month at Interbike.We have been working on our changes for some time now.We did not copy anything from George,if anything we copied the Num-chuck which was a copy of the Primo which was a copy of the Easten which was a copy of the Fly and they copied the T-1 peg. thanks

Robert, are you aware that we can check the IP address of every post in this thread?

Chris/Odyssey

Hey George,
First things first no one over here at Demolition thinks you copied our plastic peg.Second that stuff on bmx online was "mumbo jumbo" obviously we are not going to post any info online, we were making fun of all of this nonsense though.I hope everyone had a good laugh if not, get a sense of humor.Good luck with those pegs

We're laughing at you right now.

Thanks for brightening our day.

Chris/Odyssey

Well I'm you guys finally got a sense of humor,We callenge you guys to a race at Dromo 1

Wow Demolition, I don't know what's more embarrassing--those "PVC" pegs, the fact that your posts make you sound like an 8-year-old, the fact that you got caught posting them "anonymously", or the fact that you admit your stuff is complete crap and rationalize it by saying that no one else's product is "original or new" either.

I challenge you to a business ethics exam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_aggressive

Chris/Odyssey

Chris,
that wouldn't be much fun.

It might be fun for me.

I've never attempted to anonymously troll the website of another brand or intentionally submitted supposed "mumbojumbo" to a professional news source.

Chris/Odyssey

I think you should have told your boy George that after he told kids that our driver wouldn't last any longer than 30 days on the message boards. That is how this hole thing started you know. So I'm telling you right now...Chris drop it...enough is enough. BG

This "hole" thing? Seriously, did anyone inside that building pass 4th grade?

Is that you Chris? If it is I'm coming down there right now to settle this. I told you to drop it. So whate I caint spell.

George's opinions are always clearly labeled as his own. He's not trolling the Demolition website by posting dozens of comments anonymously.

As far as I knew, everything was "dropped" a long time ago on that topic via e-mail, and then again in person at Interbike.

So what are you doing on here now?

The grudge is obviously being held from your side, not ours.

Chris/Odyssey

PS: I've never posted anonymously on this site, or any others for that matter. You're welcome to come down here and check the IP addresses in person.

oh snap bmx beef .

CHRIS IM A BETTER RIDER THEN YOU!

so... back to my comment asking wether you guys will make an aluminium core for it?

p.s. oddy>demolition

^^^ It's a possibility, however it is important that this component have sufficient strength and stiffness to do it's job. Simply switching material without re-designing to take the different material properties into account would obviously be unlikely to work as well.

well aren't I just the little fire starter.

i thought of another core possibility, 10mm hole with a 14mm lip, so it works on 10mm axles and 14mm forks perfect without an adaptor, think about it

You'd think with the standard of demolition's products, over recent years, that they'd have bigger things to worry about than talking shit on the net.
pj

hey guys lets not fight about this. this is just another step to making our bikes lighter and better

i dont really know what to say, most of the people on here are to dumb to visualize how these pegs are different from the other plastic sleeved pegs... and this parts war garbage... fuck both of your companies(oddyssey and demolition)cause you suck. seriously what the fuck is 41 thermal, at least when demolition gives the molecular name of abs plastic its real... anywasy not to push any buttons but i like the idea of these pegs but the replacement plastic outer part needs to be cheap, i dont care how hard or durable it is. i just cant imagine plastic holding up to concrete brick or what ever for any sustained ammount of time.

Gary, if you had read what is above, you would know that the information posted by Demolition was in their own words; "mumbo jumbo". The diagram they posted was of the standard chemistry involved in the manufacture of PVC (not ABS).

Meanwhile "41thermal", is a combination of the words 4130 and thermal, which is a LOT quicker to write or say than "post-weld heat treated 4130 chromoly"...

Yes, the replacement sleeves should be "cheap"...

George

*repost because you didnt read it before due to slagging*

i thought of another core possibility, 10mm hole with a 14mm lip, so it works on 10mm axles and 14mm forks perfect without an adaptor, think about it, it would be really useful

Hey George, these pegs will be ideal for many of us up here in Eastern Canada. In montreal there are three indoor parks, one is very bike friendly but the other two arent at all. They inforce a plastic peg/ no peg rule. The plastic pegs that are around are very soft and dont grind so are basically only for coping stalls. Seeing as how we are stranded indoors for 4-5 months, this would allow us to actually ride pegs during the winter. If you do any first batches or have any extras prototypes laying around early for whatever reason, id buy them up right away!!
They would make my 5 months of indoor riding one hundred times better!!! Keep making the best/ most innovative parts out there!

since they are plastic, you could make some fancy colors, couldn't you?
and another important question: how will they sound?

Are they good for icepick and toothpick stalls on a coping. Wouldn't they slip to easy?

this page hurts my eyes

this is a great idea and all you people who thinks this sucks... you all suck big weiners....ya take that

this is awesome, my bro and me are going to running these garunteed

Demolition suck ass cheeks, Odyssey all the way

Dudes make them in neon pink or primer grey it would be awesome

Will these pegs leave black gunk on ledges? Over time I've learned that waxing a ledge is the fastest way to get it skate stopped...

if i ever put a peg on my bike, it will be a plastic one george <3 xx

fan-bloody-tastic

my next peg for sure!

I personally think these pegs will be alot better than the common plastic pegs on the market, but still will have wear issues, and like somebody posted above, the sleeves would have to be fairly cheap or else it'd be very inconvenient. But all in all, very good design, and Demolition dudes, I love your shit, but seriously how about you go and make more products or make the current stuff better, instead of stirring up stuff OVER THE INTERNET of all things.

The pegs dont seem to leave any visible marks on ledges etc. On a super rough concrete ledge they may leave a few small shavings, but these will probably blow away. Nothing like the unsightly marks left by wax...

pools beware!

great! now the police cant give us crap for destroying ledges!

I'll be psyched when these pegs are released. the last thing i want to happen to our warehouse ramps is to have the deck right around the coping getting damaged from metal pegs. therefore these will do the job nicely! anyone else who has doubts about this product is a moron. gsport products are high quality and it is obvious that alot of creative thinking has gone into their blueprints. George French > all haters

ya these pegs are awesome
now i think im going to run pegs for more of my tecky riding

the riders of britain are who these are made for. millions of impossible to ride concrete walls, brick ledges and every other rough surface will be easily rideable. i wouldnt care if i had to pay £20 a peg every 3 months as long as they delivered good riding sessions.

Hey g.
when you goin to make a street frame? & we need a g-sport cassette geez (like the khe hure hub). make one please! id buy one at 200 pound. sym hubs are made when ordered direct, couldn't you do the same & people will pay whatever. i like 13 tooth freewheels but dont last at all.

how long is the steel insert, or to put itanother way. how long will you axle have to be to run these.

Your making it from U.H.M.W Mechanical Plastic i would assume? I didn't sign your non-disclosure form, does that mean i can copy your idea? heh..

yo dem stuff is good fo rail slidin contests!

I think I'm the only one that doesn't completely understand fomr the picture. So the axle goes through that insert meaning about 3/4" (from what I can tell) of the axle is used by the peg insert. and then the axle nut goes on after that?

Is the "plastic" part of the peg that is against the dropout thicker than the rest of the peg? Is there any risk in the insert pulling out of the peg when landing very hard on the peg. (e.g. second stage grinds, etc.)?

Yo George, Hit up demz craaaazy cullahz!

those pegs are so good i rode dannys bike the other day and they slide so smooth

WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN??? we're horny!!!

Are the designed to spin when you grind? Looks like they will.

can't wait till they come out!!

hey man i so want some but can you update the info with some more pics and info lol

hey dood i was wondering on when these are coming out becouse i want to buy some new pegs and ive been waiting for these to come out ever since Ive seen them in the ride bmx's interview with one of your riders. well if u can please contact me through my e-mail thanks and merry christmas!

fuck coming in crazy colors. hit up home depot and buy some spray paint.

haha holy shit that demolition thing was funny as hell. i love odyssey and gsport. i got no hate on demolition cuz theyre producing stuff at affordable prices but when it comes to QUALITY. theres really no fight there. you pay for what u get. and to top it off i did have a demolition seat a long while ago and broke it by landing on it with my ass while missing the pedals. i tried to see if i could get a warranty and well... i just had to by another seat. they wanted me to send it in and they would tell me if they would warranty it. fuck that shit. you either do or dont. so i never bought another demolition part. simple shit like that has a big effect. so i had to buy another seat and that seat is an odyssey. which i still have. how do you do it george? look at the pegs, the hubs, the fuckin ribcage. one crazy dude. if i ever met him id have to buy him a beer. well im done with what i gotta say. thats just my little input.

so yeah can give a better estimate on when these shizzys are comin out ....cuz u know im from saskatchewan and all rails are made of wood and straw and everybody has pitchforks strapped to there shotguns

do they get weaker in colder temp? like 20 degrees cold fucking IL winters. do they turn like steel pegs with out anti-roll pins and are the productions going to have them?

Hey George,
Here over at Mirra co we are also producing a plastic beg, that should be out in Febuary. We have been testing the peg for the last 3 weeks, and agree its the best peg that will ever be produced. THey come with Free plastic replacements, after you buy our "Mirra Co Peg Supscription" you will recieve 1 free plastic replacemnt cover every month. So you wil never have to buy pegs again. Also be aware that I am on dope.

wow!, the mighty dave. i have to say mirraman, my respect for you is in the ascendant since you left haro. your bikes look dialled and you spread the love with awesome parts options. maybe you should leave the ground breaking innovations to mr G though. without actually knowing him in person i still feel i can say that he both lives an loves this shit more than your marketing/engineering divisions. and anyway, it's not a competition you know!

when are they for sure coming out?

George, we're waiting! Out with them already!

lovin the pleg idea man id buy 4 rite now if u were sellin them tho 2 b honest im more interested about this G-sport cassette im hearin about like how much is it gona cost and wens it gona b avaiable

I've loved odyssey ever since i got serious into BMX. They're stuff just seems to be engineered and tested better. This coming from a aspireing engineer.
I do know that ABS is dyeable but i'm just not sure how stong it is, and i do understand that these are not made of abs.
Hoffman bikes has a SPC peg that has a UHMW cover and cap available. I like the cap idea because i do ride some flatland. It would also be great if there were pegs that i could just slip some pvc pipe from the hardware store over too. That would be consumer cost effective but i dont know about being profitable for the company.

i highly doubt that is dave mirra. all u have to do is put in ur name in caps and ur site in caps and it'll look just like them

Can u tell us like a date or something?

when are these going to hit the uk shops?

Dam, George you are a genious! I love the hubs, the rim and now these. I can't wait til they come out, they are going to be awesome from what I can see from previous work. Keep it up, can't wait to see what you do next.

Just wondering though, when are they likely to hit UK stores and around how much?

i was just wondering,will your axle nut sit on top or inside of the steel insert?

so George when is early 07 :$?

spam is every were!!!!!! any whoo when da fuck these things coming out?

So Geroge.. i saw your on bikeguide.. i was just wondering how much these pegs will cost?

because im planin on buying them

-Andrew

how thick are they and do they flex or snap? im guessing that grinding brick is a bad idea

How is an axle going to go all the way through that steel part?

I WANY PLEGS...NOW???

i would really like to buy a pair or two of these...when will they be available in the US?

Also will they come out in 3/8" and 14mm?

Will they come out in white?

You got spamed....

When WHEN !!!! IT's ALMOST MAY! WHENNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They got delayed a few months because of a problem with tooling I heard....

any possibility all this spam is a result of that drama between you (george) and that guy from demolition was it? lol. sorry not funny really...but still ..im wondering about lacing patterns and spoke lenth for the the rib cage and marmoset combination. ...the lacing pattern seems simple enough i just wanna be sure before i spend all this time lacing mynew wheel and figuring out i completely screwed it up...hope you solve this spam soon and can continue delivering your past quaility of feedback..or if its cuz of the baby..well..defintately understandable..so no worries

why does odyyssey slag of people, and g-sport are only do one good part the marmoset. is it inteneded for street. does the treads in the jub come with lifetime warrantee, as they are hell of alot expensive

does the tread come with Lifetime warrantee. in the marmoset... One thing why is every thing about weight these days, they are light enough. build some muscles people out there

this comments section is epic.great read

and hurry up and release these pegs !

what if a little boy that had aids and all he ever wanted was four plegs, well there is and he is dying right now and the only cure is plegs, release them now or your not going to heaven.(unless you pray for gods forgiveness^^^^)

Any update on release for Plegs?

ok seriously everyone hating on the plegs shut the hell up he is trying to make bmx a better sport not impress your dumbasses. he OWNS a bmx company you dont, so until you do shut the hell up

plegs should make a massive improvement for the whole bmx scene i cant wait till they come out i'm gonna buy 2 i havnt ridden pegs on my custom fit flow for ages and cant wait to test what its like to grind plastic pegs and see the difference

plegs should make a massive improvement for the whole bmx scene i cant wait till they come out i'm gonna buy 2 i havnt ridden pegs on my custom fit flow for ages and cant wait to test what its like to grind plastic pegs and see the difference

george,

good job
but when are they coming out?????????

i think some these posts have gone off topic, nice pegs i think i'd ride pegs again if i could get some of these who cares who invented them i mean where did euro bb and internal headsets come from eh boys good sh!t G p.s love those rims i got one =D

imagine.. white pegs
just saw your new bike G...

2 piece bars... no gyro.. whats happening? bring back that sketchy aluminium spoke end chunk of metal gyro router thing ♥

i cant wait till they come out

when r these pegs gonna be out